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Thema: Fans expectations
@DTox9 Thank you for explaining. I'm understanding better now, where it's coming from. But I agree with you, there are other things that are more important.
"3. Make the game fun to play..." I wish there were easy ways to achieve this, as different managers have different things that are fun for them. So I would focus on your other suggestions first, like changes for new managers and the already planned "additional" changes first (additional skilllevel, maybe international league) instead of the transformative changes (so the ones that change existing systems and will always cause unrest).
Yea, not sure the problem for new managers is solved either. I joined this season on the first Monday of week 0, last season shouldn't really be my problem.
Rating of the current season: above expectations
Rating of the last season: total failure
Level of satisfaction with recent matches: 100%
Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations: 34.17%
Fanclub members: 215
Mood: Your supporters are satisfied
Officially my fans want this: Fan's expectations: Top half of the table, I'm second in a botleague, lost 1 match. Gotten 10 Fans this week though, after 5 in the last 3 weeks together. So that's at least progress. It's no biggie. Just weird.
(Edith war hier)
"3. Make the game fun to play..." I wish there were easy ways to achieve this, as different managers have different things that are fun for them. So I would focus on your other suggestions first, like changes for new managers and the already planned "additional" changes first (additional skilllevel, maybe international league) instead of the transformative changes (so the ones that change existing systems and will always cause unrest).
Yea, not sure the problem for new managers is solved either. I joined this season on the first Monday of week 0, last season shouldn't really be my problem.
Rating of the current season: above expectations
Rating of the last season: total failure
Level of satisfaction with recent matches: 100%
Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations: 34.17%
Fanclub members: 215
Mood: Your supporters are satisfied
Officially my fans want this: Fan's expectations: Top half of the table, I'm second in a botleague, lost 1 match. Gotten 10 Fans this week though, after 5 in the last 3 weeks together. So that's at least progress. It's no biggie. Just weird.
(Edith war hier)
The presentation of the problem has improved, but the problem remains the same: not enough new fans for the new, small clubs.
Everyone has recognized that a fundamental problem is that it takes too long to become competitive as a newcomer. With the old fan club system, that took a very long time.
But what is the situation of a newcomer after the current changes to the fan club system?
He starts with 200.
Ideally, if he wins almost all the games, he gets good ratings from the fans for 9-10 weeks. Under the old system, that meant 20-30 fans per week, 200-300 fans per season.
Now it's 6-9 fans per week per season, about 80 fans per season. After four seasons, one year (!) of playing, he has only 500 fans.
How long does someone have to play here before they can afford a new stadium tribune or a decent coach?
How long does someone have to play here before they have even the slightest chance of paying something with their spectator income? Who lasts 15 seasons before it's fun and you have a good team?
I have no idea why these attendances have changed. But the impact on the new players who have to build up is absolutely devastating.
Everyone has recognized that a fundamental problem is that it takes too long to become competitive as a newcomer. With the old fan club system, that took a very long time.
But what is the situation of a newcomer after the current changes to the fan club system?
He starts with 200.
Ideally, if he wins almost all the games, he gets good ratings from the fans for 9-10 weeks. Under the old system, that meant 20-30 fans per week, 200-300 fans per season.
Now it's 6-9 fans per week per season, about 80 fans per season. After four seasons, one year (!) of playing, he has only 500 fans.
How long does someone have to play here before they can afford a new stadium tribune or a decent coach?
How long does someone have to play here before they have even the slightest chance of paying something with their spectator income? Who lasts 15 seasons before it's fun and you have a good team?
I have no idea why these attendances have changed. But the impact on the new players who have to build up is absolutely devastating.
The problem with expectations for new clubs is still here, hasn't been fixed yet.
But without fixing every week it will be better cause proportions between last and current season changes during the season inplus for current season.
But without fixing every week it will be better cause proportions between last and current season changes during the season inplus for current season.
you'll never be able to afford anything with sponsor wages and bonuses at ANY level in this game.
Training and selling somewhat talented youth is basically the only way to get yourself out of the starters hole.
Training and selling somewhat talented youth is basically the only way to get yourself out of the starters hole.
hm to be honest i do not get the new fan mood 6:1 against the second team I pass on second place and no change money in the account are not much
Rating of the current season:above expectations
Rating of the last season:great success
Level of satisfaction with recent matches:68.8962%
Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations:66.67%
Fanclub members:3051
Mood:Your supporters are satisfied
if the goal is to reduce income from games that's what they probably achieving ..
its just I hoped new system to be drastically better than last one its a shame to spend efforts on something that do not improve anything :(
Rating of the current season:above expectations
Rating of the last season:great success
Level of satisfaction with recent matches:68.8962%
Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations:66.67%
Fanclub members:3051
Mood:Your supporters are satisfied
if the goal is to reduce income from games that's what they probably achieving ..
its just I hoped new system to be drastically better than last one its a shame to spend efforts on something that do not improve anything :(
I think it’s a slow process and so a single result won’t change too much. Needs to be over a period of time. Which is going to make it annoying as it resets each season. I don’t like it and think it’s flawed but not much we can do.
HI, i was penalized by the fans...
Even after a victory, is it possible that the mood of the fans remains bad and 7 abandon the club?
Among other things, my opponent is very strong and first in classification.
Thanks
Regards
Even after a victory, is it possible that the mood of the fans remains bad and 7 abandon the club?
Among other things, my opponent is very strong and first in classification.
Thanks
Regards
Even after a victory, is it possible that the mood of the fans remains bad
Yes it is possible because mood also takes where you are in table in this season and where you were in table in previous season.
Yes it is possible because mood also takes where you are in table in this season and where you were in table in previous season.
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Rating of the current season:goal achieved but the fans mood didnt improve.Why?
Rating of the current season:goal achieved
Its worth about 24% at his moment of the season, so its not enough. Rest of the parameters are just to low.
Show me all the lines from office.
Its worth about 24% at his moment of the season, so its not enough. Rest of the parameters are just to low.
Show me all the lines from office.
Like this.The only difference is Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations:40% and Rating of the current season:goal achieved
Looks like your expectations are below expected for this season, not goal achieved judging by that. The 100% means you've won a lot recently so your recent results are good but you're still not where you are expected to be. Win a few more games and get into the position you're expected to finish and this I expect should rise pretty quickly. That would be my assumption.
totail failure has range from 0 to 20%
below expectations: 20-40%
goal achieved: 40-60%
above expectations: 60-80%
great success: 80-100%
He had 20-40% last season, that means he could have 20, but also 39%, this is something we don't know.
When he had "below" this season, that means the same - somewhere between 20-40%.
But now he has "goal achieved" - between 40-60%. But change may have been subtle from 39% to 41% for example.
And this is not all. This week in sokker season:
- last season rating x0.6
- current season rating x0.4
Than adding this to results in level of sattisfaction which changed from 38 to 40% after winning single game.
Than! It is mixed with satisfaction from recent matches results.
below expectations: 20-40%
goal achieved: 40-60%
above expectations: 60-80%
great success: 80-100%
He had 20-40% last season, that means he could have 20, but also 39%, this is something we don't know.
When he had "below" this season, that means the same - somewhere between 20-40%.
But now he has "goal achieved" - between 40-60%. But change may have been subtle from 39% to 41% for example.
And this is not all. This week in sokker season:
- last season rating x0.6
- current season rating x0.4
Than adding this to results in level of sattisfaction which changed from 38 to 40% after winning single game.
Than! It is mixed with satisfaction from recent matches results.