Thema: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

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The game can be better in order to provide joy, it is ok that some adjustments were needed, for example remove the 5x divine players

Or add 2 more Numbers to the extra skills, for example 19 and 20
(Edith war hier)

When I was NT Coach at Sweden, I finished my work, because there were too many times to refresh the datebase, I was little tired for this to write letters. When we didn't see the skills, needed 2-3 weeks to refresh the datebase with new tactics and orgazised friendly games..., because not everybody send the answer with sort periods, and lot of people didn't send with the actual language what we ask.

But the things changed. When I elected at Senagal, I needed only 6 hours to refresh the datebase in my excel, and creat the basic formations, and fixed the friendly games. So this is much easier. I would pay for this, this is not a big money for 1 year.
If I wouldn't be an NT coach I would pay for it too, because I like analyse my opponent week buy week, and like to creat a new tactic for every match at club level too. The tactic creation is my passion in the game.
If we want see our opponent matches at club level this is the same situation, because need plus. So I feel this is no question for me.

How does the NT system work now? Do you have to actively search out players or is there a search function?
It used to be an absolute pain creating a database, and thankfully we had users on here who established their own site for us all. Otherwise it would have been impossible without some knowledge of Excel or coding.

You can use your own excel, sk doesnt provide any service for NT databases. In Colombia we had an excel that updated automatically skill when players were on TL or announcement

Now I use Terrion Assistant, I just add the ID of the player I want to track and thats it. I can see the skill improvements also.
Couple of cool things about this SK Asistente is that I can track the form's trend of NT player and also provides a max value estimate (if form 18), so I can make a comparisson of players in similar levels.

To discover players there is GM DB and sk-tables NT Scouting.

As Red pirate said, thanks to "share NT skills" it is very nice to setup your NT team.

And I would say this is even more important for U21 coaches, wer players change every season and also traking update of skills is much more important

But you can't just search for players in the same way you'd look for a transfer? Because that seems like the logical thing for this site to provide.
(Edith war hier)

Now I can go to your team, as I am NT manager, if you have a player from my NT nationality, I can see the skills.

This I can do only if I have plus and you dont click on disallow "Sharing skills with NT coach is enabled"

That is what I would like most

Having like 19, 20 or even 21 as skills

So not all strikers on top level are 3 x max, not all midfielders like 6x16 etc

This would make things much more interesting as every user needs to focus on what skills a striker should have.

Also like mids with 2 x 21 but not good in the other skills might be an option if they are placed well etc.

I guess this would be a small change with huge effects (like higher salaries and different players and tactics based on player skills)

That's the thing though, you have to actively go looking for me instead of using a search engine. It's not user friendly.

yes, and sk needs to improve on this, but you can handle it with 3rd party search engine and db
(Edith war hier)

its quite unfair when a team makes double the second team or cup finalist to not play in CL
and super funny when lots of bots play in CL in Round 1

@raul
Can you insert a letter or a Word to the bot team in the Championship ranking?

I guess this would be a small change with huge effects (like higher salaries and different players and tactics based on player skills)

In this game users spend mountains of Money, 25 milions € for a player. It's a not a problem :)

lately I saw so many 16yrs being sold for +10M euros profit in matter of weeks. No daytrading restriction can stop this madness. This is a systematic problem of youth schools. 16y good junior with top talent can easily beat 18y divine junior. 20-21y divine junior is a crap no matter what. 16-17y players just beat anyone in a long term and there is a way too big potential profit in short term on them because of that. Much bigger profit than you could ever make by winning all the matches possible in this game.

Thats why I try 18-19 age midfielders, what is cheaper for me. I always want to train a player min. 9-10 seasons(if talented...)

I had some big transactions, but I won't have any profits on 2-3 players after 10 seasons...

I mostly more happy then a 16 age junior come to my school with 4-5 weeks.
(Edith war hier)

+1000 to this.

I have 2 talented 20 year old juniors (or were) on my team. One has 3.2 talent and is the only reason he'll be 'okay'. The other is newer and was a divine pull mid 20th year. I paid maybe 100k or so combined for both.
Yet if you get a 16 year old early in the season you can make 100 times this much money. It's absurd.

I bought the former players because I am a new team, and am broke constantly trying to compete above my level.

I just opened youth school this season and I basically reject everyone, predicted talent regardless, if they are already 18 years old and will come out near 20, and anyone younger who is starting from a trash level. I have FOUR kids in my school. Two I'm not even sure will be worth anything when they finish.

Trophymanager does youth school way, way better than this. I am new over there too (well, 8 months)...and I already have my own mini-rebuild going and my training centers are 80 soon to be 90% efficient. I barely touch the market there at all anymore. I am self-sufficient.