Thema: »[info]DevDiary 80: “Price is what you pay, value is what

The topic of crowdfunding is being considered very seriously. It is an independent thread - unrelated to the current plans to change the in-game shop and the method of payment for PLUS. These changes must be made regardless; however, crowdfunding requires thorough preparation - as you point out, we need to have a fully prepared plan of changes that will be implemented as part of such a fundraising effort, along with their valuation. We will work on such a fundraiser, but it is a topic for months of work, if not the entire upcoming year.

How much will the annual plus cost?

we havent decided about new price list, we will publish dedicated DD about it. for sure monthly subscription will be the cheapest option.

Thanks :)

for sure monthly subscription will be the cheapest option.

why though?

do you mean a long-term (for example yearly) subscription that will be paid monthly?

why would that be a better (since it's cheaper it should better) option for the owners? Since your aim is to fund the changes then the sooner you get the money, the better it would be for the project... now instead of receiving for example 1000 euro on day 1 you will receive that 1000 euro by 83 euro instalments every month during a year. Can't see how that can be better for you, and you should promote (by price) the best option for you

we dont want a pay to win mechanics, but it is the same as with training charts - you can notice your player development by your own, or have additional tool to make it easier when you buy a plus. same with skills - you can do your research and ask for skills, or use our tool dedicated for PLUS users

It's absolutely NOT the same

You can follow your players development 100% reliably without PLUS, just need to use some external tool like you said, you don't need to rely on others.

You can't reliably get skills every week from every coach by asking them in mails. Many users just won't reply to sk-mails, and at the same time they won't disable sharing skills - meaning that you will only know the skills if you have PLUS = clear advantage.

It is kind of elite option, and from my personal perspective - reducing NT elections for only PLUS users is also a good solution for the future.

Do you really need to squeeze those few more PLUS users with this tactic? Be careful or you may quickly find yourself in a situation where there are not enough users interested in being NT coaches...

+1

It is kind of elite option, and from my personal perspective - reducing NT elections for only PLUS users is also a good solution for the future.

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NT voting and elections!!

SORRY, but that would be socially unjustified,
because there are certainly also players,
who can't afford a plus for social reasons!

In my opinion, it would be wrong,
to marginalize such people!!!
(Edith war hier)

The reality is that they are asking for more money although they made things worse. No matter how you look at things the game is worse than before which is difficult to understand. They changed things users didn t ask for and the important things like injuries, youth academy and keeping the new users in the game remain untouched. Instead of apologizing they come up with excuses. No communication for months because of lack of time. Really? It takes 5 minutes every week to post an update. It looks like they bite off more than they can chew but they wont admit it.

Please!
The player finished healing from his injury in the squad, but in the lineup he remains injured for 1 more day.
This happened to me 3 times this season.

Perhaps they think that as every time they communicate the get a load of complaints that they are better off not communicating that often.

I don't think they've said prices are necessarily going up (although as inflation has been high the past couple of years I am sure that is likely). I think they believe that players paying a monthly subscription will be more sticky and I am sure that will be the case. There's not many businesses who aren't trying to do the same to be honest.

From the standpoint of fund availability, a subscription may be a less favorable option - indeed, currently, we receive payment upfront, so we immediately have the full amount for the year. Nevertheless, that is quite a narrow perspective - not without reason, all subscription models opt for monthly payments - it's a much lower entry barrier for players than paying a large amount upfront, and for us, it's also the most stable and secure solution.

We will promote it most strongly among the various payment options.

I said that it's my individual perspective on NT matches; we don't plan such changes to limit participation in elections only to those with a PLUS package. I don't think this feature is a major problem, and probably 90% of NT coaches are PLUS players anyway. We won't be liberalizing this.

I have no doubt that from the user's perspective, as many tools as possible should be free, but I believe we have done a lot to make the game easier for people without a PLUS. I would like to remind you that before our changes, you had to wait 2 minutes for the match to be displayed, and player skill changes were invisible. In many places, we have supported non plus users, and it would be great if we all were aware of this instead of creating a narrative about "squeezing".

Dont blame us for ur fail.
We want changes but only for the best!and we agree.You schedule a faster season without fixing injuries-forms-academies...
who is responsible for this fail?
A clever idea for the plus users was the newspaper,a spot who a plus user post for his team!
and u delete it!
And u want for us to buy plus cuz ur planing to hiding things of the game.
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No man,work and earn the money.
(Edith war hier)

Plus:
3D match and 2D match.
Guestbook
Player skills changes
Skills visible to coach NT

Right now without those conditions there Is no Need to make the plus
(Edith war hier)

In my opinion the most needed changes are:

- injuries
- extra training in nt friendlies, small countries dp have an enormous disadvantage at the moment
(Edith war hier)