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Could I have a few opinions on assistant coaches at my level. I spend £15k per week just on assistant coaches and am wondering if it is worth while. Im looking to cut costs as Im losing around £55k per away game and £15k per home game
i have 3 very good coachs and they do the job just fine for me.
lots of people have different theories about coachs but the way i see it is this.
what is below isn't fact, but is what i have seen to asume in my training plans.
main coach gives 50% of all training. so it is impecable to have this a good as you can aford.
the other 50% comes from 3 coachs.
correct me if im wrong but i think there are 17 different level's assisant coachs can be and you sould have 3 of them.
that gives a total of 51 points. having very good aochs, like in my case gives me 9*3=27 / 51 or 50 (however you see it ;) )
so that 27+50 givees 77/100, and for our level i think is good ;) so with a 10k head coach and 3 very goods at 2.5k wages each. your coach wage bill will be droped to an afordable 17.5k a week apart from your youth coach.
sorry for bad spelling, badly dyslexic.
lots of people have different theories about coachs but the way i see it is this.
what is below isn't fact, but is what i have seen to asume in my training plans.
main coach gives 50% of all training. so it is impecable to have this a good as you can aford.
the other 50% comes from 3 coachs.
correct me if im wrong but i think there are 17 different level's assisant coachs can be and you sould have 3 of them.
that gives a total of 51 points. having very good aochs, like in my case gives me 9*3=27 / 51 or 50 (however you see it ;) )
so that 27+50 givees 77/100, and for our level i think is good ;) so with a 10k head coach and 3 very goods at 2.5k wages each. your coach wage bill will be droped to an afordable 17.5k a week apart from your youth coach.
sorry for bad spelling, badly dyslexic.
Maybe dyslexic but the logic is sound. Very nicely done Daza101.
The only thing I can say is that the head coach needs to be unearthly in the skills you train, rather than his general rating.
If you look at the future threads you can see what the key skills and their weightings for each postion are reckoned to be and thats a good starting point for training.
The only thing I can say is that the head coach needs to be unearthly in the skills you train, rather than his general rating.
If you look at the future threads you can see what the key skills and their weightings for each postion are reckoned to be and thats a good starting point for training.
I've always worked on that principle too, it's the reason why I have 37 sumskill assistants and no youth school :P
Quote from the gospel, sorry rules...
The quality of both individual and general training responsibility lies mostly with the main coach. The feature that counts most is his individual skills; his general appraisal does not influence the effectiveness of training. Select a head coach who has a high ability in training the skill you have chosen for the individual training. Decide yourself how important for you, are the other coach abilities and if you can afford to pay more for a better coach.
The assistants may be helpful to the main coach improving his training effectiveness - the better the assistant (in terms of general appraisal); the more he helps the main coach. However, do not hire too many assistants. If you hire more than 3, they will argue, resulting in training being less effective, or even lost.
First comment - In my book 'mostly' implies more than 50% ...otherwise you'd say half wouldn't you?
Second comment - As for anecdotal evidence, I've played SK for 10 seasons, starting with 3 x Good assistants. I now have 3 x Brilliant assistants. If assistant coaches have anything even close to 50% influence then I should have seen a significant improvement in pop rate for equally talented players (especially as I've always trained using an head coach that's Unearthly in my training area) - sadly I haven't experienced that kind of improvement...
My hunch is that the split in influence is closer to 75:25 or 80:20, HC:assistants. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my experiences don't fit with your idea, and I have no proof mine are right either!
However, I genuinely think you're overstating the importance of the assistants compared to the Head Coach - which could mean spending your hard-earned cash on better assistants rather than say better trainees.
(Edith war hier)
The quality of both individual and general training responsibility lies mostly with the main coach. The feature that counts most is his individual skills; his general appraisal does not influence the effectiveness of training. Select a head coach who has a high ability in training the skill you have chosen for the individual training. Decide yourself how important for you, are the other coach abilities and if you can afford to pay more for a better coach.
The assistants may be helpful to the main coach improving his training effectiveness - the better the assistant (in terms of general appraisal); the more he helps the main coach. However, do not hire too many assistants. If you hire more than 3, they will argue, resulting in training being less effective, or even lost.
First comment - In my book 'mostly' implies more than 50% ...otherwise you'd say half wouldn't you?
Second comment - As for anecdotal evidence, I've played SK for 10 seasons, starting with 3 x Good assistants. I now have 3 x Brilliant assistants. If assistant coaches have anything even close to 50% influence then I should have seen a significant improvement in pop rate for equally talented players (especially as I've always trained using an head coach that's Unearthly in my training area) - sadly I haven't experienced that kind of improvement...
My hunch is that the split in influence is closer to 75:25 or 80:20, HC:assistants. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my experiences don't fit with your idea, and I have no proof mine are right either!
However, I genuinely think you're overstating the importance of the assistants compared to the Head Coach - which could mean spending your hard-earned cash on better assistants rather than say better trainees.
(Edith war hier)
I am not so sure that main coach gives only 50% and the assistants the other half... I think main coach gives more. And assistants should be a little bit higher than very goods, let's say at least excellent. But this is only my opinion, it's not a law :))
I prefered at the begining to have only a main coach without any assistants... then I bought 3 outstandings directly when the budget was affordable. And the training is just fine for the moment...
I prefered at the begining to have only a main coach without any assistants... then I bought 3 outstandings directly when the budget was affordable. And the training is just fine for the moment...
My personal estimate is around 68/32, just because it's poetic ^^
As far as i know ... the main coache improves what u are training (pace , defence ...) and the assistants the other ones (random pop). Or at least thet how it was a couple of years ago when i used to play. If i'm wrong pls correct me.
it's all a balance between wage and price really
e.g. I paid a lot for my coaches' low wages
Alexi Klupac: excellent: 3120 pw - cost 71k
Boleslaw Wojton: excellent: 3345 pw - cost 60 or 65k
David Grez: good: 1155 pw - slightly less wage-effective but I think he was really cheap
My main coach, Bruce McPheidran has unearthly pace, unearthly def, magical stamina, incredible tech and gets paid 10750 pw. I spent about 60k on coach searches before I got him too. That taught me to never use the coach search again.
e.g. I paid a lot for my coaches' low wages
Alexi Klupac: excellent: 3120 pw - cost 71k
Boleslaw Wojton: excellent: 3345 pw - cost 60 or 65k
David Grez: good: 1155 pw - slightly less wage-effective but I think he was really cheap
My main coach, Bruce McPheidran has unearthly pace, unearthly def, magical stamina, incredible tech and gets paid 10750 pw. I spent about 60k on coach searches before I got him too. That taught me to never use the coach search again.
when I went from having (good average) assitants to (excellent x2, good) the training did seem to speed up visibly
(Edith war hier)
(Edith war hier)
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