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Im about ready to quit... i joined and put in a lot of time into the original game, because i enjoy strategy/ management games.. NOT Arcade games.. or stupid phone apps...
they changed & ruined the game play... who cares about arcade games every night.. one of the cool things was the realistic aspect.. all of which they are killing.
this is something like a hot chick is coming to u and propose to have sex every day and u reply..nooo thx i have my hand that i use more realistic on wednesday and sunday..who cares about sex every day
they changed & ruined the game play... who cares about arcade games every night.. one of the cool things was the realistic aspect.. all of which they are killing.
this is something like a hot chick is coming to u and propose to have sex every day and u reply..nooo thx i have my hand that i use more realistic on wednesday and sunday..who cares about sex every day
For devs...PS! Stats are always fun. So more you have, the better :)
The devs really seem to notice the decline in plus users.
That´s the price they pay for ruining the gameplay and not changing the pathetic engine.
Now they create the possibility to see even more crappy games.
Good luck – they will need it!
That´s the price they pay for ruining the gameplay and not changing the pathetic engine.
Now they create the possibility to see even more crappy games.
Good luck – they will need it!
There will always be different opinions. I think the game is better than ever, however if users are stagnating/failing to make progress they will lose interest and quit after some time..
The game, as a whole, is better.
The problem is that once they have changed the matches from skill-important to a-lot-of-random-factors...
I'm sure that if you generate exactly the same 3 games with exactly same tactics and players then you will get 3 exactly different games.
Which can of course be easily checked now...:]
The problem is that once they have changed the matches from skill-important to a-lot-of-random-factors...
I'm sure that if you generate exactly the same 3 games with exactly same tactics and players then you will get 3 exactly different games.
Which can of course be easily checked now...:]
Which can of course be easily checked now...:]
That's true :) That makes this Arcade option interesting to use for a couple of times.
That's true :) That makes this Arcade option interesting to use for a couple of times.
Users have always been stagnating/failing, that´s not a new issue.
The declining number of total users shows that many of them vote with their feet and leave.
We have the lowest number of users in my country EVER.
Obviously not enough users think that the game is better than ever...
The declining number of total users shows that many of them vote with their feet and leave.
We have the lowest number of users in my country EVER.
Obviously not enough users think that the game is better than ever...
Very bad change, the game is becoming very plus-oriented. So close to quit...
the game is becoming very plus-oriented
Money is needed to make Sokker possible, without it no one would be able to play this game anymore. A Dutch saying is: only the sun rises for free ;)
Money is needed to make Sokker possible, without it no one would be able to play this game anymore. A Dutch saying is: only the sun rises for free ;)
Sokker has always changed - but they don´t like bad changes ;-)
It always changed a little, this was the first time they changed a lot. And some like it and some don't.
I think the main reason why there are not that many managers left is mostly because not enough new managers start playing Sokker. Managers always stopped playing Sokker, but enough new managers also started to play. That makes it most of all a marketing problem, not a Sokker is changed problem.
(Edith war hier)
I think the main reason why there are not that many managers left is mostly because not enough new managers start playing Sokker. Managers always stopped playing Sokker, but enough new managers also started to play. That makes it most of all a marketing problem, not a Sokker is changed problem.
(Edith war hier)
Cant really understand what is problem with this change? As Do the Dew said, it will bring much more enjoy of the game and ways to find new tactics, think outside of the box etc. U just have to accept fact that there is no return to previous match engine and that U have to think new tactics.
Too much randoom- well if U say that it is based on lets play 10 times same tactic and U ll have 3 wins by one side 2 draws and 5 by opponent side- U have to understand that form changes, TD changes plus U also depend on opposition tactic. Same things used to happen before but niw people forgot that.
and in "real" football there are teams like barcelona who play same tactic and sometimes they loose against super weak side- some years ago it was levante, osasuna etc. and if U put them in 100 games they would beat them 91 but it happenes that this was "randoom" one. SOmetimes even Messi miss, Puyol mistakes etc.
Difference in shots? In many many cases teams that shoot more during match lose. Why- sometimes they just are not concentreted enough and sometimes it was because opponent made them shoot from tough positions or outside of the box which are low percentage shots. Hell Man utd loses from Wigan, Norwich or some other team, PSG also... accept it, happens more than U would expect in real football aswell
Too much randoom- well if U say that it is based on lets play 10 times same tactic and U ll have 3 wins by one side 2 draws and 5 by opponent side- U have to understand that form changes, TD changes plus U also depend on opposition tactic. Same things used to happen before but niw people forgot that.
and in "real" football there are teams like barcelona who play same tactic and sometimes they loose against super weak side- some years ago it was levante, osasuna etc. and if U put them in 100 games they would beat them 91 but it happenes that this was "randoom" one. SOmetimes even Messi miss, Puyol mistakes etc.
Difference in shots? In many many cases teams that shoot more during match lose. Why- sometimes they just are not concentreted enough and sometimes it was because opponent made them shoot from tough positions or outside of the box which are low percentage shots. Hell Man utd loses from Wigan, Norwich or some other team, PSG also... accept it, happens more than U would expect in real football aswell
With the facebook promotion probably more people than ever get to know this game.
Obviously they don´t stay. So the product doesn´t seem to be convincing enough for the chosen target group.
On the other hand many users who have been supporting this game for years have
become really angry, have voiced their concerns and were ignored.
But it´s no use discussing this endlessly – the declining user number says it all...
Even the devs can´t ignore that!
Obviously they don´t stay. So the product doesn´t seem to be convincing enough for the chosen target group.
On the other hand many users who have been supporting this game for years have
become really angry, have voiced their concerns and were ignored.
But it´s no use discussing this endlessly – the declining user number says it all...
Even the devs can´t ignore that!
Too much randoom- well if U say that it is based on lets play 10 times same tactic and U ll have 3 wins by one side 2 draws and 5 by opponent side- U have to understand that form changes, TD changes plus U also depend on opposition tactic. Same things used to happen before but niw people forgot that.
I'm talking about playing 3 games in 3 days, with same players and zero changes in tactic on both sides.
Of course the result can differ, but the general 'feeling' of the game should be the same.
and in "real" football there are teams like barcelona who play same tactic and sometimes they loose against super weak side- some years ago it was levante, osasuna etc. and if U put them in 100 games they would beat them 91 but it happenes that this was "randoom" one. SOmetimes even Messi miss, Puyol mistakes etc.
Yes. But in these random loses of Barca, Barca still is the BETTER side on the field, just lacks the luck in finishing, or loses a stupid goal.
Like Celtic this season - Barca was by far superior on the field, had loads of chances...but lost after a counter attack. Bad luck, random result - but not random game, if you know what I mean :).
Because otherwise...why bother with making tactics, if it is all up to random? :)
I'm talking about playing 3 games in 3 days, with same players and zero changes in tactic on both sides.
Of course the result can differ, but the general 'feeling' of the game should be the same.
and in "real" football there are teams like barcelona who play same tactic and sometimes they loose against super weak side- some years ago it was levante, osasuna etc. and if U put them in 100 games they would beat them 91 but it happenes that this was "randoom" one. SOmetimes even Messi miss, Puyol mistakes etc.
Yes. But in these random loses of Barca, Barca still is the BETTER side on the field, just lacks the luck in finishing, or loses a stupid goal.
Like Celtic this season - Barca was by far superior on the field, had loads of chances...but lost after a counter attack. Bad luck, random result - but not random game, if you know what I mean :).
Because otherwise...why bother with making tactics, if it is all up to random? :)
It is a combination of a lot of things. Yes, many older managers stopped playing the game, but with enough new managers this wouldn't have been a problem at all. Potentially there are millions new users who like games + soccer, they could easily replace those few thousand who quit Sokker last 2 years. But if you could see the stats, numbers of new registered managers in countries, you would know this is absolutely a big problem, and it is a problem for some years now. The limited options for new managers after sign up was implemented to increase the number of new managers but it didn't help. FB was another idea, also didn't help.
The right question is why so few people start playing Sokker or can't even find Sokker. And of those few new managers who do sign up, why so few of them continue playing Sokker (most don't return after the first sign up), eventhough they know nothing of these new changes and haven't watched a single match, so that can't the problem. Is it to complicated, or is the layout made to complicated (no good tutorial for example), is the looks of the site to outdated and/or not attractive enough (bad graphics). Etc etc. I think all these things are a problem.
Sokker needs a really good update, not some tweaking as what happened last years but a real update.
(Edith war hier)
The right question is why so few people start playing Sokker or can't even find Sokker. And of those few new managers who do sign up, why so few of them continue playing Sokker (most don't return after the first sign up), eventhough they know nothing of these new changes and haven't watched a single match, so that can't the problem. Is it to complicated, or is the layout made to complicated (no good tutorial for example), is the looks of the site to outdated and/or not attractive enough (bad graphics). Etc etc. I think all these things are a problem.
Sokker needs a really good update, not some tweaking as what happened last years but a real update.
(Edith war hier)